N. Carolina bill aims to make same sex marriage illegal.

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    i'd possibly argue that wacker marriage should be illegal but it seems like society probably took care of that one naturally.

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    Orson is paranoically spying again.

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    Happy Bear posted: "I'm married as it happens...". Happy Bear considers some of us incompetent when it comes to marriage.

    I have questions for Happy Bear, which might possibly help us find a wife, which are:

    "Do you & your spouse lie (i.e., be dishonest) to each other?"

    "Do you & your spouse keep secrets from each other or, otherwise, have no secrets?"

    Thanks in advance

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    lol odd question...

    no we don't lie to each other (or at least i dont and quite sure she doesnt).

    do i have secrets from her? a couple i guess, but id probably share them if pressed or it became relevant. nothing too serious.

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    Thanks HB. More questions.

    Are you & your wife sexually faithful to each other or are you both 'swingers'?

    If you are not swingers, why are you not swingers or why aren't you not married?

    Today, there is a very pool of lonely & horny women. Why be married when a man can be like a child set loose in a candy store that stocks a large variety of sweets?

    Thanks in advance.

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    No, we aren't swingers or unfaithful lol. Just our personal preferences.

    "Why be married when a man can be like a child set loose in a candy store that stocks are large variety of sweets?"

    I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest you don't really understand love Wacker. Sucks to be you.

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    Thanks H.B.

    Can you tell me more about what this thing called "love" is so I can assess myself to whether I can qualify or not?

    If I am to "love" something called a "woman", what qualities or skills do I require?

    Thanks again, in advance

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    not sure I can judge your capacity for love.

    we would need a crack team of post-doctoral psychiatric researchers to even begin to scratch the surface of what's wrong with your brain and the damage it has suffered.

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    I'll try my best as a layman shrink though....

    Here is Maslow's Heirarchy of Needs.

    My guess would be is you are swimming around the bottom two levels at best.

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    Why the fuss over marriage certificate?

    Live with some over 12 months, then you are classified as having a de facto relationship, therefore your entitlements are same, as married couple with certificate gay or straight.

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    true ken,

    although the argument also runs the other way, as why some people are so opposed to the idea of equality

    john howard, for example, went out of his way to put up legal obstacles to same sex marriage... so im curious why the 'why bother' crowd didnt say something back then.

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    Happy Bear. Don't get too cocky (excuse the pun). I haven't finished with you & your Womens Day style gossip here.

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    Happy Bear said: "Have you noticed that the most innovative and successful cultures have been the most tolerant of gay people, womens freedoms, etc etc, whilst the most backwards and stupid ones tend to lag behind? Worth thinking about what that means."

    In trying to work out what you or "it" means, Wikipedia states:

    * In Australia... states and territories progressively repealed their... anti-homosexuality laws between 1975 and 1997. Each jurisdiction has had an equal age of consent for sexual acts since 2016. (Timelines per state, here: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-24/timeline:-australian-states-decriminalise-male-homosexuality/6719702)

    * The Sexual Offences Act 1967 is an Act of Parliament in the United Kingdom (citation 1967 c. 60). It decriminalised homosexual acts in private between two men, both of whom had to have attained the age of 21. The Act applied only to England and Wales and did not cover the Merchant Navy or the Armed Forces. Homosexual acts were decriminalised in Scotland by the Criminal Justice (Scotland) Act 1980 and in Northern Ireland by the Homosexual Offences (Northern Ireland) Order 1982....In the 1960s, a Jewish socialist MP, Leo Abse, and a peer, Lord Arran, put forward proposals to change the way in which criminal law treated homosexual men by means of the Sexual Offences Bill. This attempt to liberalise the law relating to male homosexuality can be placed in a context of the rising number of prosecutions of homosexual men.

    * In 1962, consensual sexual relations between same-sex couples was decriminalized in Illinois, the first time that a state legislature took such an action. Over the next several decades, such relations were gradually decriminalized on a state-by-state basis

    * The long-standing prohibition on open homosexuals serving in the United States military was reinforced under "Don't ask, don't tell" (DADT), a 1996 Congressional policy which allowed for homosexual people to serve in the military provided that they did not disclose their sexual orientation. The Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) of 1996 also barred the federal government from recognizing same-sex couples in any legal manner.

    * Through the 20th century, the gradual liberalization of American sexuality led to the elimination of sodomy laws in most states. During this time, the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of sodomy laws in Bowers v. Hardwick in 1986. However, in 2003 the Supreme Court reversed the decision with Lawrence v. Texas, invalidating sodomy laws in the remaining 14 states (Alabama, Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri (statewide), North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, and Virginia).

    * Lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) rights in Israel are the most advanced in the Middle East and one of the most advanced in Asia. Same-sex sexual activity was legalized in 1988,

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    Imo, society is obsessed with equality.
    What do we do or say, in 10-20 years time, if married couples gay or straight wants to bring in, the third person into their relationship legally?

    What will Human rights groups endorse?

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    "Imo, society is obsessed with equality."

    Its a pretty good thing to be obsessed with in my view.

    As for the polygamy question, that's another discussion and debate entirely.

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    Happy Bear posted: "no we don't lie to each other (or at least i dont and quite sure she doesnt)" Happy Bear also posted: "I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest you don't really understand love Wacker. Sucks to be you."

    So HB seems to believe not lying to people in relationship is a positive or healthy thing. HB seems to believe being "faithful" and "honest" (in words & deeds) are characteristics of this thing called "Love". HB seems to believe not being faithful & not being honest "sucks".

    So what about this video here showing the lies of Donald Trump? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN6KfHL9kf8

    Trump Supporters Winning Gold Medal In Mental Gymnastics Trying To Justify His Actions

    Why would a Happy Bear support a proven liar to govern the world yet not support lying & unfaithfulness in marriage?

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    i have no support at all for Trump? never have, never will.

    if i remember correctly wacker, you thought he was pretty amazing though, to the point you supported the idea of an armed insurrection if he didnt get elected.

    what the hell has trump got to do with it? im not marrying him anyway... that was melania's decision.

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    "HB seems to believe not being faithful & not being honest "sucks"."

    You're demented wacker. I actually said it 'sucks to be you', in the sense that you are a loveless, sad, old man.

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    My position is neutral, with the topic.

    Its in our nature, the more we are given, the more we want (society is obsessed with equality) the more we abuse our freedom.

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