The Wristwatch Thread

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    I figure since we do actually have a collectables topic and one of the MNS discussion threads was being derailed a bit by watch related discussion I'd make a separate thread dedicated to it :)

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    @Fuzzywuzzy "A question for watch lovers. I have a TAG which was inherited a few years back. I do not wear it but will be giving it to my son when he turns 21. Is there a problem if they are not worn for years?"

    To answer that it depends on whether the watch is mechanical or battery powered. If its a quartz watch and has a battery, the battery can and almost will certainly leak if the watch is just left sit for several years. If the battery leaks the movement can be completely unserviceable as a result which is going to be around $800-1200 to replace going through TAG Heuer.

    If it a mechanical it can sit for as long as you want it to sit and it'll be just fine, but you can't (or at least shouldn't) wear it if its been more than 5 years since its last service as the oils inside dry out and no longer protect the movement, resulting in metal on metal wear and damage to parts. The fact that an old mechanical may be running well or keeping good time is actually not relevant, they can do so while destroying themselves internally (Rolexes are famous for this) leading to a massive parts bill when they finally do stop.

    So in summary if its mechanical, leave it but get it serviced before he wears it, if its battery just have the battery removed and a new one installed when he finally gets to wear it.

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    Thanks Ash. Yes it is mechanical. I have heard about the oils drying up was not sure. Will get it serviced when we give it to him.

    This is the model.

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    Thats not the actual watch you own though right, because that one's a pretty bad counterfeit, the pushers are off the date window is wrong and has the wrong colour date wheel the crown and bracelet are off etc.

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    No Ash, that is a pic I downloaded to show what it is. The real one is in my safe. Will put a pic up for you later.

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    Ahk cool they're a nice piece the Grand Carrera but they're particularly susceptible to wear as the Calibre 17 is a piggyback movement using a time only 3-hand ETA 2892-A2 base movement with a Dubois-Deprez piggyback module attached to the top which converts it into a chronograph. The DD module is very difficult to service or maintain so in typical maintenance they service the underlying ETA movement and simply replace the piggyback module with a new one meaning labour is low but parts costs are high, so watchmakers charge about double for one of these compared to a fully integrated chronograph like the ETA 7750 based Calibre 16.

    They are though very robust and reliable aside from that and tend to be quite accurate as the 2892-A2 is an exceedingly good and durable base movement to begin with.

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    It's all all Chup fault we started a thread. He had to post his iwatch

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    Send it to tag for servicing. If u haven't used a watch for a long time it needs a service

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    Hey Ash, my mate just brought the Rolex Daytona. He waited three years for it. Back then the price was $13k. He ended up paying $15. it's great I have someone to talk to now. My wife is sick of me talk about watches hahaha

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    They're a great piece the SS Daytona I wear my white 116520 a fair bit when I'm not wearing the Apple Watch, not as much as I used to but when you're not going anywhere special the AW provides a lot of use and utility especially when you get a huge volume of emails each day and server notifications.

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    Interesting watch talk peeps. Being a diehard scrounger of markets and garage sales I've come across and bought a few watches but never anything worth talking about. I don't wear them myself as I have no real need, that is, unless the rooster falls off his perch :)
    Thick clouds tend to stuff up my celestial clock too but apart from that, the only event where I need a time adjustment is for daylight saving.
    My time piece needs no batteries or oil, nor insurance cover, just clear skies ;)
    And just in case yur wondering how I manage when I go out at night, well I don't, I stay indoors cause I'm scared of the dark :(

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    Mate you can find some good things at garage sales and in weird places, one of the rarest and coolest pieces I own was bought from a retired professional dominatrix in Texas who used to service a Mexican politician who gave her the piece. A year or so ago another bloke I know bought an AUD $50k+ JLC Deep Sea Alarm at a Good Will thrift store for $5.99

    https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/found-vintage-lecoultre-deep-sea-alarm-worth-over-35000-for-599-at-phoenix-goodwill

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    Come on Ashjb, don't tease, I want to know what that "rarest and coolest pieces I own"

    I brought a Rolex watch for $100 (sing) and ended up being fake watch from the back streets of Bangkok, I have never gone to another garage sale since.

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    Thanks for that advice, Asjb, about maintenance. My all time favourite watch, which I don't really wear much, is a Omega De Ville (like the example pictured but with a crocodile leather brown band) and it's a "manual" wind up. Will now take it for an oil & grease.

    My family (all boys) are all watch freaks - they rattle off all the technical specs - me, I just know what I like and don't bother too much with what's under the bonnet. Ditto with cars.

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    Hi Ashjb, Fuzzy like this one? Me rolex. Son TAG.

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    I was thinking about getting this watch if my MNS share keeps going the way it's going

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    Not in the white gold. I was thinking the stainless s

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    Yes, I am sure that is the one Pingfan.

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    @Freebies the stainless ceramic submariner is a solid choice, one thing to consider though is that it uses the older Calibre 3135 movement which is an evolution of the 3035 which in turn is a slightly reworked 1575 from the 1950s. It uses some very old tech, particularly its auto-winding system which is a sleeve bearing on an axle which wears out very badly over time.

    Now Rolex started building a new generation of movements with the current Calibre 4130 in the Daytona in 2000, which uses a modern ball bearing winding system, has a much longer 72 hour power reserve (vs ~48 in the Submariner and other 3135s) and is far more robustly built. When the Skydweller was released it carried a time only movement with a calendar piggyback module that was in turn derived from the Daytona tech and the Yacht-Master II series Calibre 4160 also is a Daytona based movement.

    Now last year Rolex released the new Day-Date 40 which carried an all new Calibre 3255 movement, which takes the Daytona technical platform and expands even further on it:

    https://www.rolex.com/watches/rolex-watchmaking/new-calibre-3255.html

    This movement at the moment is only in a handful of watches but over the next few years will filter down into all of the time only models like the Submariner at which point the values of the old 3135s which are made in far too large a number to ever be that valuable rarity wise will start to sink as the new movement replaces them. So for that reason I'd probably either go vintage or go for one of the modern movement Rolexes already in production rather than any of the 3135 family models that are going to be outdated before long. Rolex really should have replaced them 10-15 years ago as that 3135 is quite inferior compared to a lot of its modern competitors like the Omega Calibre 8500 series that's been out since 2007.

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    @Bladerunner That piece looks like a Calibre 620 or so probably a reference 511.0379 . In the 1970s those Devilles and many like it were referred to cocktail watches and many like it were actually intended to be a mens model originally even though they were small. These days their design and size makes them very much an appropriate ladies piece as are many mens watches of the 50s-80s given the recent trend for blokes to wear large 38-45mm pieces unlike the more sedate 30mm-36mm size. Those old hand-winds are extremely well made and pretty cheap to service at an independent watchmaker (most will charge under $300).

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